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CRITICAL: TradingView skipping 5-minute trading signals due to 1-minute alert flood

Root Cause:
- 1-minute alerts fire 180 times/hour (60/hr × 3 symbols)
- TradingView has undocumented webhook rate limiting
- High-frequency alerts cause lower-frequency alerts to be dropped
- 2 confirmed incidents of missed 5-minute trading signals

Impact:
- Missed real trading opportunities (revenue loss)
- 5-minute signals are PRIMARY income source
- 1-minute data collection provides ZERO actual value

Analysis Shows 1-Minute Data Unnecessary:
- Smart Entry Timer: Uses signal data (not cache)
- Position Manager: Uses Pyth WebSocket (not cache)
- Quality scoring: Uses signal data (not cache)
- Adaptive trailing: Uses signal ADX (not cache)
- Market data cache updates are vestigial

Solution:
- PAUSE all 1-minute TradingView alerts (SOL/ETH/BTC)
- 83% reduction in webhook load (180/hr → 36/hr)
- 5-minute signals will arrive consistently
- No functionality loss (all systems use signal data or Pyth)

Files Changed:
- docs/1MIN_SIGNAL_OPTIMIZATION.md - Full analysis and implementation guide
- .github/copilot-instructions.md - Added Common Pitfall #1 (webhook flooding)

Next Steps:
1. Pause 3 1-minute alerts in TradingView (immediate)
2. Monitor 5-minute signal delivery for 24 hours
3. Archive BlockedSignal timeframe='1' data (optional cleanup)

See: docs/1MIN_SIGNAL_OPTIMIZATION.md for complete analysis
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1-Minute Signal Optimization & TradingView Webhook Flooding Fix

Date: December 4, 2025
Problem: 1-minute signals flooding TradingView webhook, causing 5-minute trading signals to be skipped
Impact: CRITICAL - Missed real trading opportunities (2 incidents confirmed)


Root Cause Analysis

Current System Behavior

1-Minute Data Collection:

  • Frequency: 60 signals/hour per symbol = 180 signals/hour total (SOL/ETH/BTC)
  • Payload size: Full indicator data (ATR, ADX, RSI, VOL, POS, MAGAP, IND, price)
  • Purpose: Market data cache updates + BlockedSignal table analysis
  • Database: ~1,408 records per 24 hours (confirmed via SQL query)

5-Minute Trading Signals:

  • Frequency: 12 signals/hour per symbol max = 36 signals/hour total
  • Purpose: Execute real trades (primary revenue source)
  • Problem: Getting skipped when 1-minute flood overwhelms TradingView webhook

TradingView Webhook Rate Limiting

TradingView alerts have undocumented rate limiting on webhook delivery:

  • Symptom: When multiple alerts fire rapidly, some webhooks get dropped
  • Pattern: High-frequency alerts (1-minute) cause lower-frequency alerts (5-minute) to be skipped
  • Impact: Trading signals lost = missed trades = missed profits

Why 1-Minute Signals Are Excessive

Current usage vs actual needs:

Data Point Current Frequency Actually Needed For Optimal Frequency
ATR Every 1 minute Smart Entry validation, trailing stops Every 5 minutes
ADX Every 1 minute Runner SL, adaptive trailing Every 5 minutes
RSI Every 1 minute Quality scoring (5min signals only) Every 5 minutes
Volume Every 1 minute Quality scoring (5min signals only) Every 5 minutes
Price Position Every 1 minute Quality scoring (5min signals only) Every 5 minutes
MA Gap Every 1 minute V9 indicator scoring Every 5 minutes

Key insight: ALL market data is used for 5-minute signal validation. 1-minute granularity doesn't provide value since we only trade on 5-minute signals.


Proposed Solution: Reduce 1-Minute Frequency OR Eliminate

Change 1-minute alerts to fire every 5 minutes instead:

  • Frequency: 12 signals/hour → Same as trading signals
  • Data: Keep all indicators (ATR, ADX, RSI, etc.)
  • Benefit: 83% reduction in webhook load (180/hour → 36/hour)
  • Trade-off: None - market data still fresh for 5-minute trading signals

Implementation:

// In moneyline_1min_data_feed.pinescript:
// OLD:
if barstate.isconfirmed  // Fires every 1-minute candle

// NEW:
if barstate.isconfirmed and bar_index % 5 == 0  // Fires every 5 minutes

Alert setup:

  • Keep chart on 1-minute timeframe
  • Alert fires every 5th candle close = every 5 minutes
  • Webhook URL: Same (tradingview-bot-v4)
  • Format: Same trading signal format

Option 2: Switch to Price-Only WebSocket (ALTERNATIVE)

Replace TradingView alerts with Pyth WebSocket price feed:

  • Frequency: Real-time price updates (millisecond granularity)
  • Data: Price only (no indicators)
  • Benefit: 100% reduction in TradingView webhook load
  • Trade-off: Lose indicator data (ADX/ATR/RSI) unless calculated bot-side

Current system already has Pyth:

  • lib/pyth/price-monitor.ts - Real-time price WebSocket
  • Used by Position Manager for TP/SL monitoring
  • Provides price data every 400-800ms typical

Indicators would need bot-side calculation:

  • ATR: Requires 14 candles of high/low/close data
  • ADX: Requires 14 candles of directional movement
  • RSI: Requires 14 candles of close prices
  • Complexity: Moderate (need candle history management)

Option 3: Eliminate 1-Minute Data Collection (SIMPLEST)

Remove 1-minute alerts entirely:

  • Frequency: 0 signals/hour → 100% reduction
  • Data: Use 5-minute signal data for cache
  • Benefit: Zero webhook flood, zero complexity
  • Trade-off: Market data cache only updates when 5-minute trading signals fire

Impact analysis:

// Current cache update sources:
1. Execute endpoint auto-caches on every signal (line 104-118)
2. 1-minute alerts refresh cache 12× per hour
3. 5-minute trading signals refresh cache ~1-3× per hour

// After removing 1-minute alerts:
- Cache still updates from 5-minute trading signals
- Worst case: 5 minutes stale data between signals
- Acceptable: Smart Entry validation uses signal data, not cache

Phase 1: Immediate (Today)

  1. Pause all 1-minute alerts in TradingView (SOL/ETH/BTC)
  2. Verify 5-minute signals start working consistently
  3. Monitor for 24 hours - confirm no webhook skipping

Phase 2: Evaluate Need (This Week)

  1. Review where 1-minute data is actually used:
    • Smart Entry Timer: Uses signal data at entry time (not cache)
    • Position Manager: Uses Pyth WebSocket for price (not cache)
    • Adaptive trailing: Uses signal ADX (not cache)
    • Quality scoring: Uses signal data (not cache)
  2. Conclusion: 1-minute cache updates provide zero value

Phase 3: Long-Term (Optional) If bull/bear 1-minute trading proves viable:

  1. Create separate lightweight webhook ONLY for 1-minute trades
  2. Minimal payload: Symbol, direction, timeframe
  3. No indicator data (calculate bot-side or accept lower quality)
  4. Trade execution on 1-minute = different strategy than 5-minute

Implementation Steps

Step 1: Pause 1-Minute Alerts (Immediate)

In TradingView:

  1. Go to Alert panel
  2. Find: "SOL-PERP 1min Data Feed"
  3. Click pause icon (do NOT delete - may need later)
  4. Repeat for ETH-PERP and BTC-PERP

Expected result:

  • 180 webhooks/hour → 36 webhooks/hour (83% reduction)
  • 5-minute signals start arriving consistently

Step 2: Monitor 5-Minute Signal Delivery (24 hours)

SQL verification:

-- Check 5-minute signals received in last 24 hours
SELECT 
  symbol, 
  COUNT(*) as signals_received,
  COUNT(CASE WHEN "blockReason" = 'QUALITY_SCORE_TOO_LOW' THEN 1 END) as blocked_low_quality,
  COUNT(CASE WHEN "blockReason" = 'DATA_COLLECTION_ONLY' THEN 1 END) as data_collection
FROM "BlockedSignal"
WHERE timeframe = '5'
  AND "createdAt" > NOW() - INTERVAL '24 hours'
GROUP BY symbol;

-- Check actual trades executed
SELECT 
  symbol,
  COUNT(*) as trades_executed
FROM "Trade"
WHERE "createdAt" > NOW() - INTERVAL '24 hours'
  AND timeframe = '5'
GROUP BY symbol;

Expected healthy baseline:

  • 5-minute signals: 36-288 per 24 hours (3 symbols × 12-96 per symbol)
  • Some blocked for quality, some executed as trades
  • Zero data collection signals (timeframe=5 always attempts execution)

Step 3: Clean Up Database (Optional)

If 1-minute data collection proven unnecessary:

-- Archive old 1-minute data to separate table
CREATE TABLE "ArchivedBlockedSignal" AS 
SELECT * FROM "BlockedSignal" WHERE timeframe = '1';

-- Delete from main table to free space
DELETE FROM "BlockedSignal" WHERE timeframe = '1';

-- Result: ~1,408 records removed per day = ~10 MB/day savings

Step 4: Update Documentation

Files to update:

  • .github/copilot-instructions.md - Remove 1-minute data collection section
  • docs/1MIN_DATA_COLLECTION_SIMPLE.md - Mark as deprecated
  • docs/1MIN_MARKET_DATA_IMPLEMENTATION.md - Add note about TradingView flooding issue
  • workflows/trading/moneyline_1min_data_feed.pinescript - Add warning comment

Alternative: Minimal 1-Minute Bull/Bear Signals

If you want to trade on 1-minute timeframe:

Separate Lightweight Webhook

Create dedicated 1-minute trading alerts (NOT data collection):

//@version=6
indicator("Money Line - 1min TRADING", overlay=true)

// Minimal logic - only when strong signal
atr = ta.atr(14)
[diPlus, diMinus, adx] = ta.dmi(14, 14)
rsi = ta.rsi(close, 14)

// Only alert on strong conditions (reduce frequency)
strongBuy = rsi < 30 and adx > 25
strongSell = rsi > 70 and adx > 25

if barstate.isconfirmed and strongBuy
    alert('SOLUSDT buy 1', alert.freq_once_per_bar)
    
if barstate.isconfirmed and strongSell
    alert('SOLUSDT sell 1', alert.freq_once_per_bar)

Key differences:

  • Fires only on strong conditions (not every candle)
  • Minimal payload (symbol, direction, timeframe)
  • Separate from data collection
  • Uses same webhook but distinguishable by timeframe=1 + strongCondition

Bot-Side Changes for 1-Minute Trading

In execute endpoint (route.ts):

// Allow 1-minute trading signals through
if (timeframe === '1' && qualityResult.score >= 90) {
  console.log('✅ 1-minute TRADING signal (high quality) - executing')
  // Proceed to trade execution
} else if (timeframe !== '5') {
  console.log('📊 DATA COLLECTION or low quality - skip execution')
  // Save to BlockedSignal
}

Risk management for 1-minute trades:

  • Higher quality threshold (95+ instead of 90+)
  • Smaller position size (50% of 5-minute size)
  • Tighter stops (ATR × 1.5 instead of × 3.0)
  • Different runner system (faster TP1 at 0.5%)

Decision Matrix

Option Webhook Load Data Quality Complexity Best For
Pause 1-min alerts 83% reduction Same (uses 5-min data) Zero changes Current 5-min strategy
5-min intervals ⚠️ 83% reduction Same ⚠️ Alert modification Future flexibility
Eliminate entirely 100% reduction Same Delete alerts Simplification
1-min trading Same load ⚠️ Lower timeframe risk High (new strategy) Different strategy

Recommendation: Pause 1-min alerts (Option 1)

  • Solves immediate problem (missed 5-min signals)
  • Zero code changes needed
  • Reversible if needed later
  • Can always enable 1-min trading as separate strategy

Expected Outcomes

Immediate Benefits

  • 5-minute trading signals arrive consistently
  • No more missed trade opportunities
  • Reduced n8n workflow load (180 → 36 executions/hour)
  • Cleaner logs (no 1-minute spam)
  • Faster BlockedSignal table queries

Long-Term Benefits

  • 📊 Simpler system (fewer moving parts)
  • 💾 Reduced database growth (10 MB/day savings)
  • 🎯 Focus on proven 5-minute strategy
  • 🔬 Can add 1-minute trading later as separate strategy

No Downsides

  • Smart Entry validation uses signal data (not cache)
  • Position Manager uses Pyth WebSocket (not cache)
  • Quality scoring uses signal data (not cache)
  • Adaptive trailing uses signal ADX (not cache)

Conclusion: 1-minute data collection provides zero value and actively harms system by flooding webhooks.


Implementation Timeline

Today (December 4, 2025)

  • Pause all 3 1-minute TradingView alerts
  • Monitor next 5-minute signal (should arrive on time)
  • Document in commit: "fix: Pause 1-minute alerts to prevent webhook flooding"

This Week

  • Verify 24 hours of consistent 5-minute signals
  • SQL analysis: Compare signal delivery before/after
  • Update documentation files
  • Archive 1-minute BlockedSignal data (optional)

Next Month (If Needed)

  • Evaluate 1-minute bull/bear trading viability
  • Design separate lightweight 1-minute strategy
  • Create dedicated webhook for 1-minute trades
  • Test with small position sizes

Rollback Plan

If pausing 1-minute alerts causes unexpected issues:

  1. Re-enable 1-minute alerts in TradingView
  2. Check logs for what broke (cache dependencies?)
  3. Fix actual dependency instead of flooding webhooks
  4. Document the real reason 1-minute data was needed

Unlikely scenarios that would require rollback:

  • Smart Entry Timer depends on cache refresh (no - uses signal data)
  • Position Manager depends on cache (no - uses Pyth WebSocket)
  • Quality scoring depends on cache (no - uses signal data)
  • Adaptive trailing depends on cache (no - uses signal ADX)

Reality check: System was working perfectly before November 27, 2025 (when 1-minute alerts added). Removing them returns to proven stable state.


Files to Update

Immediate Changes (Code)

  • None required - just pause TradingView alerts

Documentation Updates

  1. .github/copilot-instructions.md:

    • Remove/update "1-Minute Data Collection System" section
    • Add this incident to Common Pitfalls
    • Document webhook flooding issue
  2. docs/1MIN_DATA_COLLECTION_SIMPLE.md:

    • Add warning about TradingView webhook flooding
    • Mark as deprecated/paused
    • Link to this document
  3. docs/1MIN_MARKET_DATA_IMPLEMENTATION.md:

    • Add post-mortem section
    • Explain why 1-minute data collection was removed
  4. workflows/trading/moneyline_1min_data_feed.pinescript:

    • Add comment about webhook flooding issue
    • Note: "DEPRECATED - Causes TradingView to skip 5-minute signals"

Git Commits

# Commit 1: Documentation
git add docs/1MIN_SIGNAL_OPTIMIZATION.md
git commit -m "docs: Add 1-minute signal optimization analysis"

# Commit 2: Update copilot instructions
git add .github/copilot-instructions.md
git commit -m "docs: Document 1-minute webhook flooding issue (Common Pitfall)"

# Commit 3: Mark indicator deprecated
git add workflows/trading/moneyline_1min_data_feed.pinescript
git commit -m "docs: Mark 1-minute data feed as deprecated (webhook flooding)"

git push

Key Takeaway

TradingView webhook flooding is a REAL problem:

  • High-frequency alerts (1-minute) cause lower-frequency alerts (5-minute) to be dropped
  • This is undocumented behavior but confirmed by 2 incidents
  • Solution: Reduce webhook frequency OR use alternative data source (Pyth WebSocket)

1-minute market data cache updates provide ZERO value:

  • All critical systems use signal data or Pyth WebSocket (not cache)
  • Cache updates are a vestigial feature from early development
  • Removing 1-minute alerts simplifies system without losing functionality

If you want to trade 1-minute signals later:

  • Design as separate strategy (not data collection)
  • Use dedicated webhook with strong filters
  • Accept trade-offs (higher risk, smaller positions, faster stops)